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If you've run through all the [[Troubleshooting (Users)|troubleshooting]] steps and things still aren't working how you might expect them to, one of the benefits of an open source project is that there are communities of people who use Greasemonkey who may be able to share their experience to help you get back on track.
If you've run through all the [[Troubleshooting (Users)|troubleshooting]] steps and things still aren't working how you might expect them to, one of the benefits of an open source project is that there are communities of people who use Greasemonkey who may be able to share their experience to help you get back on track.


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== What to Do First ==
== What to Do First ==


Before you ask for help, you should make a reasonable effort to help narrow down exactly what the issue you are having is - ''Help us to help you''.  
Before you ask for help, you should make a reasonable effort to help narrow down exactly what the issue you are having is - ''Help us to help you''.  
 
Without doing the basic groundwork to get that information, even someone who truly wants to help can only at best guess at what the problem might be.
Without doing the basic groundwork to get that information, even someone who really really really wants to help you can only, at best, guess at what the problem might be.


By providing detailed information early on, it shows that you are willing to put the effort in yourself.  
By providing detailed information early on, it shows that you are willing to put the effort in yourself.  
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In other words, it makes it more likely that someone will be willing to ''volunteer'' their time to help you.
In other words, it makes it more likely that someone will be willing to ''volunteer'' their time to help you.


==== Do Some Troubleshooting ====
=== Do Some Troubleshooting ===
 
The first step is to start by [[Troubleshooting (Users)|troubleshooting]] yourself.
The first step is to start by [[Troubleshooting (Users)|troubleshooting]] yourself.
This is important as lots of problems reported are common issues that are solved very easily.
This important step may immediately resolve the issue.


==== Collect the Information Together ====
=== Collect the Information Together ===
After doing this troubleshooting, you must be ready to explain what you've already done and what the results were.


After all, since losing our psychic powers, not describing what is or is not working it will make it difficult to understand what is happening on your computer.
After doing troubleshooting, you must be ready to explain what you've already done and what the results were.
No one else is sitting at your computer, so no one else can explain what's wrong.
No detail is too minor.


Communicating what is happening on your computer, what you think it should actually be doing and what you've already done to try and figure out ''why'' it isn't behaving in the way you expect is probably '''the''' most important step.  
Communicating what is happening on your computer, what you think it should actually be doing and what you've already done to try and figure out ''why'' it isn't behaving in the way you expect is the most important step.
In fact, it deserves a section of its own..
In fact, it deserves a section of its own.


== What to Say ==
== What to Say ==


After going through the basic troubleshooting steps yourself, it is time to decide what you are going to tell the [[#Where_to_Say_It | relevant person]].
After going through the basic troubleshooting steps yourself, it is time to decide what you are going to tell the [[#Where_to_Say_It|relevant person]].


The reason ''every'' piece of this information is important is because there are so many things that could be going wrong it is important to help someone else be able to reproduce the problem.
Every piece of this information is important because so many things could be going wrong.
It is much easier to help you when enough information is available for the helper to reproduce the problem themselves.
Maybe it is a problem with a script, maybe it is a problem with Greasemonkey.  
Maybe it is a problem with a script, maybe it is a problem with Greasemonkey.  
Either way, if someone can cause the error to appear on their own screen, then they can be sure that their suggested fix will work.


Either way, if a Greasemonkey developer can cause the error appear on their own screen then they can find it ''much'' easier to figure out how to fix it.
=== All of the following: ===
 
==== ''All'' of the following: ====


* Operating System  
* Operating System  
** (E.G. Windows XP, Windows 7, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Ubuntu Linux 8.10)
** (E.G. Windows XP, Windows 7, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Ubuntu Linux 8.10)
* Firefox version  
* Firefox version  
** (Open <tt>Help</tt>, <tt>About Mozilla Firefox</tt> then select and copy the last line of text, E.G. "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100115 Firefox/3.6".)
** (Open <code>about:support</code> and it should be the second line in "Application Basics".)
 
* Greasemonkey version  
* Greasemonkey version  
** (Find it in <tt>Tools</tt>, <tt>Add-ons</tt>, E.G. <tt>0.8.20091209.4</tt>.)
** (Open the Add-ons Manager then double-click the Greasemonkey line to display the details, including installed version.)
 
* Exactly which script, if any, is causing a problem?   
* Exactly which script, if any, is causing a problem?   
** Give an exact name, and if '''at all''' possible, the URL where it can be found.
** Give an exact name, and if '''at all''' possible, the URL where it can be found.
* Exactly which page, if any, is exhibiting this problem.   
* Exactly which page, if any, is exhibiting this problem.   
** Please give a URL.  If some sort of registration or login or other permission is required, please state this instead.
** Please give a URL.  If some sort of registration or login or other permission is required, please state this instead.


==== Note about scripts ====
=== Note about scripts ===


If you are a script author, including the exact code that is causing problems is ''really'' important.
If you are a script author, including the exact code that is causing problems is important.


The best option is to provide a URL to some sort of pastebin service, like [http://gist.github.com ''gist.github.com''] or [http://pastebin.com/ ''pastebin.com''], which can communicate the entire, and exact, source code causing the problem.
The best option is to provide a URL which can communicate the entire, and exact, source code causing the problem.
Equally important is providing the ''whole'' script, not just a few lines of code as in many cases the real problem might lie elsewhere; without being able to see that code, nobody can help you for sure.
If necessary, upload the code to a service like [https://gist.github.com/ Gist].
Equally important is providing the ''whole'' script, not just a few lines of code.
In many cases the real problem might lie elsewhere from where you expect; without being able to see that other code help is more difficult or impossible.


If you provide the source code via email, '''please''' do not paste it into the body of your message: e-mail clients will wrap lines, change characters, and generally break the code in other subtle ways.
If you provide the source code via email, please do not paste it into the body of your message: e-mail clients will wrap lines, change characters, and generally break the code in other subtle ways.
Attaching the source code as a file makes sure it is not broken in transit.
Attaching the source code as a file makes sure it is not broken in transit.


== Where to Say It ==
== Where to Say It ==


Great! You have all of this lovely information. Now you just need to decide where to send it ;)
Great! You have all of this lovely information. Now you just need to decide where to send it.


Here's a quick guide for some good places to look:
Here's a quick guide for some good places to look:


* If your problem is with a specific user script, you should first contact the original author of the script. <br> If you downloaded it from userscripts.org then either send a message to the scriptwright or add a Discussion to the script's page.
* If your problem is with a specific user script, you should first contact the original author of the script.
* If you ''are'' the author of the script (a scriptwright) and you need help with JavaScript, [http://www.stackoverflow.com/ http://www.stackoverflow.com/] and the [https://developer.mozilla.org/ Mozilla Developer Centre (MDC)] are excellent places to ask questions or look up reference material.
* If you are the author of the script and you need help with JavaScript, [http://www.stackoverflow.com/ http://www.stackoverflow.com/] and the [https://developer.mozilla.org/ Mozilla Developer Center (MDC)] are excellent places to ask questions or look up reference material.
* Alternatively, you can post a message to the [http://groups.google.com/group/greasemonkey-users greasemonkey-users] mailing list.  
* Alternatively, you can post a message to the [http://groups.google.com/group/greasemonkey-users greasemonkey-users] mailing list.  
* Also available are the [http://userscripts.org/forums forums at userscripts.org], with multiple appropriate topics.
* Finally, you may also try IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#greasemonkey
* Finally, you may also try IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#greasemonkey


== See Also ==
== See Also ==


* [http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html How To Ask Questions the Smart Way]
* [http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html How To Ask Questions the Smart Way]

Latest revision as of 19:38, 3 November 2017


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If you've run through all the troubleshooting steps and things still aren't working how you might expect them to, one of the benefits of an open source project is that there are communities of people who use Greasemonkey who may be able to share their experience to help you get back on track.

What to Do First

Before you ask for help, you should make a reasonable effort to help narrow down exactly what the issue you are having is - Help us to help you. Without doing the basic groundwork to get that information, even someone who truly wants to help can only at best guess at what the problem might be.

By providing detailed information early on, it shows that you are willing to put the effort in yourself. This makes it easier to see what is wrong and makes you look like a good person. In other words, it makes it more likely that someone will be willing to volunteer their time to help you.

Do Some Troubleshooting

The first step is to start by troubleshooting yourself. This important step may immediately resolve the issue.

Collect the Information Together

After doing troubleshooting, you must be ready to explain what you've already done and what the results were. No one else is sitting at your computer, so no one else can explain what's wrong. No detail is too minor.

Communicating what is happening on your computer, what you think it should actually be doing and what you've already done to try and figure out why it isn't behaving in the way you expect is the most important step. In fact, it deserves a section of its own.

What to Say

After going through the basic troubleshooting steps yourself, it is time to decide what you are going to tell the relevant person.

Every piece of this information is important because so many things could be going wrong. It is much easier to help you when enough information is available for the helper to reproduce the problem themselves. Maybe it is a problem with a script, maybe it is a problem with Greasemonkey. Either way, if someone can cause the error to appear on their own screen, then they can be sure that their suggested fix will work.

All of the following:

  • Operating System
    • (E.G. Windows XP, Windows 7, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Ubuntu Linux 8.10)
  • Firefox version
    • (Open about:support and it should be the second line in "Application Basics".)
  • Greasemonkey version
    • (Open the Add-ons Manager then double-click the Greasemonkey line to display the details, including installed version.)
  • Exactly which script, if any, is causing a problem?
    • Give an exact name, and if at all possible, the URL where it can be found.
  • Exactly which page, if any, is exhibiting this problem.
    • Please give a URL. If some sort of registration or login or other permission is required, please state this instead.

Note about scripts

If you are a script author, including the exact code that is causing problems is important.

The best option is to provide a URL which can communicate the entire, and exact, source code causing the problem. If necessary, upload the code to a service like Gist. Equally important is providing the whole script, not just a few lines of code. In many cases the real problem might lie elsewhere from where you expect; without being able to see that other code help is more difficult or impossible.

If you provide the source code via email, please do not paste it into the body of your message: e-mail clients will wrap lines, change characters, and generally break the code in other subtle ways. Attaching the source code as a file makes sure it is not broken in transit.

Where to Say It

Great! You have all of this lovely information. Now you just need to decide where to send it.

Here's a quick guide for some good places to look:

See Also